Definition according to Answers.Com: twerp-A person regarded as insignificant and contemptible
That seems to fit our Mr. JJ Carpenter to a tee. Now, you are wondering what brought on this latest word recognition; please read the following.
I have permission from Linda Perry to print an email she sent to JJ and the response she received. After you read these emails, I will then share my commentary.
JJ Carpenter, Dick Stone & Mark Taliento:
It is of great concern to us that we are unable to get the much needed kitchen supplies that we have asked for over the last few months. Two calls were made by me, Linda Perry, to JJ Carpenter (Friday 10/2 & Monday 10/5) telling him what was needed in the kitchen. No response came from him. A phone call was made to Dick Stone on Monday afternoon asking for the same items. Dick complied. But what he brought to the kitchen, in my opinion, was totally unacceptable being insufficient and unsanitary! It appears that the materials came from an unknown source/event and not in sanitary packaging, (a bag of plastic forks in a used plastic bag (unsanitary), plastic desert plates (about 40, with a TYSON logo on the bottom of the plates) insufficient amount. There are a number of us perfectly willing to shop for supplies (dish detergent, paper towels, desert plates, cups, coffee, creamer, condiments, etc) which would take the burden off those of you board members who work and don't have the time to do these things. Receipts would be provided for reimbursement for the person or persons doing the shopping. In the past, there was never a problem with the supplies in our kitchen, why is there a problem now??? If thousands of dollars can be spent on other items for the clubhouse, why not these items which are important items? I hope to get some sort of response from one or all of you.
Regards,
Linda Perry
Member in Good Standing
Poinciana Village Nine Association, Inc.
This message would have been provided to all board members if their Email address had been available to us homeowners.
JJ's response
Linda,
Yes you called me Friday, then Monday. That was only a weekend. I contacted Dick Monday and he took the needed supplies. Sorry if they don't meet your standards, but does anything we do meet your standards? You look for bad in everything we do, so frankly, coming from you I only expect the worst.
This board represents and looks out for the 279 people that pay the bills around here. We only get complaints from about 6 of them. I'd say we are doing a pretty good job despite the lies and constant duress "some people" try to keep us under.
I heard there was a time when the kitchen was supplied totally on donations from residents. The residents that used the supplies gladly helped supply them. Perhaps what was old should be new again :)
Dick and Vickie did a great job for years keeping the clubhouse stocked and efficient. I'll pass your requests on to them and I'm confident things will be acceptable, but likely insufficient in your eyes.
p.s. Please do not purchase anything unless you plan to donate it.
Regards,
JJ
BROADMOOR / POINCIANA VILLAGE NINE
phone: 407-301-0925
www.broadmooronline.com
email: jj@dieseloutreach.org
Such arrogance and from a president of the HOA. Monday night is bingo night at the clubhouse. This is open to all residents in the community and something that should be in the budget for activities. How pathetic is it when you have to beg for supplies to keep a community function running? I saw the bag of forks and I would not use a single one since I don’t know where they have been. Linda has every right to question the cleanliness of these since as far as we know, they could have been lying in filth in Dick Stone’s house. As for the 4 inch paper plates, I’m not sure where they were stolen from since obviously they were used by Tyson as a promotion for their product; maybe, a local taste test at some flea market stand. The question is who knows. When asking for supplies, one would only assume it would be new, clean and unused.
JJ’s attitude in his response only proves what an idiot he is. I wonder what his Christian congregation would think if they saw the REAL JJ in action. As far as him not getting complaints it's because not too many people want to bother with him. You don’t get over 100 signatures to out him as President from people that don’t care who is sitting in his position. Wake up JJ, people just don’t like you and your response to Linda is proof why.
Poor JJ can’t stay focused with his own ignorant thoughts. First he mentions about the supplies being donated (I’ve lived in Broadmoor 19 years and don’t remember that ever happening), but then he goes on to say what a great job Dick and Vickie did keeping the kitchen stocked and efficient. Now, if that were the case, why then when members are asking for supplies it is now being done in such a manner that one can only consider it less than acceptable? Could it be that the board (Dick is on the board) is purposely not giving Linda what she is requesting? Are they playing a game with her thinking she will get discouraged and back away? JJ, who is the one with lies and duress ‘keeping us under’?
Contrary to what JJ believes in that pea brain of his, Linda is not looking for fault, the board is just giving her less than expected. How they have been treating Linda is the same for any community member who questions, disagrees or has concerns with the board members.
JJ lives in a fantasy world. A world where he and the board members actually believe they care for the members of the community.
Hide your head in shame, JJ. You are not smart enough or intelligent enough to hold the position of President. Be a real man just once and accept the fact you are a loser. And next time you ask your God for guidance, listen to him and not the voices in your head. Those voices are getting you in trouble.
Wednesday, October 7, 2009
Tuesday, September 22, 2009
Too funny....
to not post this....
I deal with facts...I don't think it
Too bad some people 'think' their own facts
Friday, September 18, 2009
No scruples!!!
The recall petition continues and those of us on the recall committee have been honest and upfront with this quest, I can't say the same for our board members and attorney. Nothing like manipulating the facts to make a point...the cheaters way of doing things; hardly Christian like to me.
After reviewing the papers that Mr DeHart sent to Department of Business and Professional Regulations, I must say whatever DeHart wants, he gets..Sadly, it's done with the seal and zest of someone determined to get his way regardless of how much manipulating it takes.
Ms Shirley J. Whitsitt, Arbitrator, requested more info from the Petitioner (Poinciana Village Nine) because Mr. DeHart was unable to do his job correctly the first time. What he sent was vague, incomplete and only makes it questionable as to why since he is suppose to be the legal expert. Guess the added fees our association has to pay doesn't bother our incompetent board members. Then again, he may have been hoping that Ms Whitsitt wouldn't do her job competently and not ask for added information to clarify what DeHart had sent her.
Ms Whitsitt wanted to know who 'Mark' was. Yep, one of those 'let's skim over who he is' by the attorney. Well, now she wants to know and do you think DeHart could be honest with his answer? No. He referred to Mark Taliento 'is the representative of Showcase Mobile Homes Sales, Inc.' Gee, funny how one can interpreter that. Actually, Mark is the OWNER. Hmmm..wonder why DeHart had to use so many words and not use the ONE that would describe who Mark is.
Another interesting tid-bid of misinformation is who Mark purchased the lots from. According to DeHart, Mark bought these 101 lots from 'THE ORIGINAL OWNER'...wrong!!!..The original owner was Avatar. They are the ones who plated out phase 1 and phase 2. Mark purchased his lots from Schoolfield who bought from Avatar. Why was it necessary to lie about that?
When Mr DeHart makes reference to Poinciana Village Nine Documents, it talks about voting interest and to him that means those lots that Mark owns. Therefore, we did not have enough signatures. What Mr DeHart is hoping is that us common folks or Ms Whitsitt is not familiar with State Statute 720.307 (1) (b) in regards to transition from developer (Avatar) to members:
720.307 Transition of association control in a community.--With respect to homeowners' associations:
(1) Members other than the developer are entitled to elect at least a majority of the members of the board of directors of the homeowners' association when the earlier of the following events occurs:
(a) Three months after 90 percent of the parcels in all phases of the community that will ultimately be operated by the homeowners' association have been conveyed to members; or
(b) Such other percentage of the parcels has been conveyed to members, or such other date or event has occurred, as is set forth in the governing documents in order to comply with the requirements of any governmentally chartered entity with regard to the mortgage financing of parcels.
For purposes of this section, the term "members other than the developer" shall not include builders, contractors, or others who purchase a parcel for the purpose of constructing improvements thereon for resale.
We have gone through the transition with Avatar and Mark is not THE developer. DeHart is twisting what's in our documents (voting interests) while excluding state statute. Pretty devious if you ask me.
Stay tuned..more to follow....
After reviewing the papers that Mr DeHart sent to Department of Business and Professional Regulations, I must say whatever DeHart wants, he gets..Sadly, it's done with the seal and zest of someone determined to get his way regardless of how much manipulating it takes.
Ms Shirley J. Whitsitt, Arbitrator, requested more info from the Petitioner (Poinciana Village Nine) because Mr. DeHart was unable to do his job correctly the first time. What he sent was vague, incomplete and only makes it questionable as to why since he is suppose to be the legal expert. Guess the added fees our association has to pay doesn't bother our incompetent board members. Then again, he may have been hoping that Ms Whitsitt wouldn't do her job competently and not ask for added information to clarify what DeHart had sent her.
Ms Whitsitt wanted to know who 'Mark' was. Yep, one of those 'let's skim over who he is' by the attorney. Well, now she wants to know and do you think DeHart could be honest with his answer? No. He referred to Mark Taliento 'is the representative of Showcase Mobile Homes Sales, Inc.' Gee, funny how one can interpreter that. Actually, Mark is the OWNER. Hmmm..wonder why DeHart had to use so many words and not use the ONE that would describe who Mark is.
Another interesting tid-bid of misinformation is who Mark purchased the lots from. According to DeHart, Mark bought these 101 lots from 'THE ORIGINAL OWNER'...wrong!!!..The original owner was Avatar. They are the ones who plated out phase 1 and phase 2. Mark purchased his lots from Schoolfield who bought from Avatar. Why was it necessary to lie about that?
When Mr DeHart makes reference to Poinciana Village Nine Documents, it talks about voting interest and to him that means those lots that Mark owns. Therefore, we did not have enough signatures. What Mr DeHart is hoping is that us common folks or Ms Whitsitt is not familiar with State Statute 720.307 (1) (b) in regards to transition from developer (Avatar) to members:
720.307 Transition of association control in a community.--With respect to homeowners' associations:
(1) Members other than the developer are entitled to elect at least a majority of the members of the board of directors of the homeowners' association when the earlier of the following events occurs:
(a) Three months after 90 percent of the parcels in all phases of the community that will ultimately be operated by the homeowners' association have been conveyed to members; or
(b) Such other percentage of the parcels has been conveyed to members, or such other date or event has occurred, as is set forth in the governing documents in order to comply with the requirements of any governmentally chartered entity with regard to the mortgage financing of parcels.
For purposes of this section, the term "members other than the developer" shall not include builders, contractors, or others who purchase a parcel for the purpose of constructing improvements thereon for resale.
We have gone through the transition with Avatar and Mark is not THE developer. DeHart is twisting what's in our documents (voting interests) while excluding state statute. Pretty devious if you ask me.
Stay tuned..more to follow....
Monday, August 17, 2009
Saturday, August 15, 2009
Email from JJ Carpenter
Rosemary,
FYI, you may want to contact residents on McDaniel and Downing as well about my "drive bys"
I usually take different roads on different days on my way to and from work (and at lunch breaks). As a board member I actually try and keep an eye on the community, one way is driving down different roads.. Sorry if being a concerned board member causes you paranoia. I hope the next board decides to tour their community from time to time as well.
Now that you know why Einwood is on my route, let's see if you post "the truth" on your blog.
JJ
Ok, sounds to me like someone is trying to make excuses again. I don't know about you, but I'll be damn if I'm going to spend my lunch time (away from my job) to ride around the neighborhood. And besides, if it were just a 'drive-by', why the curiosity about what was going on at Linda's house? This from someone who is NOT a social friend showing concern for Linda's well being.
May I suggest, JJ, that one of your 'drive-bys' is a stop at the community clubhouse to see the damage that is being done. If you did THAT on a daily basis, you would know from the electronic key entry who was there at that particular time and just maybe, do something about the damage.
As for the 'next' board member doing a drive by, believe me, it will not be to harass the residents, nor will it be just because a board member thinks they are that special they can do what they want when they want. I for one drive around the neighborhood to see if everything is ok, but it saddens me to drive around JJ's neighborhood and see the mess because Mark Taliento chose NOT to follow the original design of Broadmoor.
So, you want truths, JJ..that is all I print.
FYI, you may want to contact residents on McDaniel and Downing as well about my "drive bys"
I usually take different roads on different days on my way to and from work (and at lunch breaks). As a board member I actually try and keep an eye on the community, one way is driving down different roads.. Sorry if being a concerned board member causes you paranoia. I hope the next board decides to tour their community from time to time as well.
Now that you know why Einwood is on my route, let's see if you post "the truth" on your blog.
JJ
Ok, sounds to me like someone is trying to make excuses again. I don't know about you, but I'll be damn if I'm going to spend my lunch time (away from my job) to ride around the neighborhood. And besides, if it were just a 'drive-by', why the curiosity about what was going on at Linda's house? This from someone who is NOT a social friend showing concern for Linda's well being.
May I suggest, JJ, that one of your 'drive-bys' is a stop at the community clubhouse to see the damage that is being done. If you did THAT on a daily basis, you would know from the electronic key entry who was there at that particular time and just maybe, do something about the damage.
As for the 'next' board member doing a drive by, believe me, it will not be to harass the residents, nor will it be just because a board member thinks they are that special they can do what they want when they want. I for one drive around the neighborhood to see if everything is ok, but it saddens me to drive around JJ's neighborhood and see the mess because Mark Taliento chose NOT to follow the original design of Broadmoor.
So, you want truths, JJ..that is all I print.
Thursday, August 13, 2009
How Pathetic
What can you say about an HOA President who takes time to leave his job so he can ride past a community member's house? That's just what happened yesterday. JJ Carpenter must have skipped out of work from Home Depot (maybe it was his lunch time), to ride past Linda Perry's house to see if he can tell why there were so many cars parked there. As we all sat around her dining room table, we could see JJ ride by in his van and we certainly had a good laugh. Then, he must have made a U-turn, because there he was again riding right by trying to figure out what was going on. I wonder who called him to give him the heads up that there was a 'gathering' at Linda's house? We knew he would try to find out what the gathering was all about, but personally, I find it totally unacceptable that one can not have a gathering at her own home without someone (like JJ) spying and invading one's privacy. As we suspected, he had seen one of the husbands (whose wife was at Linda's house) walking through Home Depot and approached him wanting to know what was going on!...Do you believe the nerve of that guy? No scruples, no decency, so unChristian (yeah, remember he has his 'ministry'. The answer the husband gave as instructed, was 'it was a birthday party'. So, JJ if you are reading this, whenever you see a 'gathering' it will be a 'birthday party'. When you get the knock on the door from channel 6, you can tell them all you know is that there was a 'birthday party'.
How worried must someone be to get so invasive into one's privacy? At what point does JJ realize what he is doing is borderline harassment and stalking and may be cause for serious concern? His behavior certainly raises eyebrows and maybe this should be brought to the attention of the Sheriff's office. We are suppose to report to the Sheriff's office if we are concerned with people driving around the neighborhood acting like they are up to no good. Well, that fits what JJ did so I guess the Sheriff should be called.
How worried must someone be to get so invasive into one's privacy? At what point does JJ realize what he is doing is borderline harassment and stalking and may be cause for serious concern? His behavior certainly raises eyebrows and maybe this should be brought to the attention of the Sheriff's office. We are suppose to report to the Sheriff's office if we are concerned with people driving around the neighborhood acting like they are up to no good. Well, that fits what JJ did so I guess the Sheriff should be called.
Wednesday, August 12, 2009
February Minutes-Keys

PLEASE CLICK ON THE PHOTO TO ENLARGE FOR EASIER READING. WHEN DONE, HIT THE BACK KEY TO RETURN TO THIS JOURNALING.
JJ Carpenter has decided to take it upon himself to confuse everyone with the February minutes by saying 'well, it's not clear, but we meant only one key'. Sorry JJ, but it must really suck when you are proven wrong and all the lying and double talking will not get you out of it.
What I have posted is a screen shot from my computer after visiting JJ's 'official' Broadmoor site. If you look at the address bar, you will see his address along with the date. He can not talk his way out of this one by saying someone deliberately changed the minutes. Here is your proof that President JJ was once again caught up in his own confusion of the facts.
Please note that in reference to keys it states that Mark Taliento made a motion to limit the key cards to 2 per household any replacement would cost $25.00. Dick Stone second and all agreed.
So what is it the JJ doesn't understand? Why did he collect $25.00 from one resident for a 2nd key? Why is there no answer when asked where did the collected money go?
How can anyone who is that ignorant and hostile be president of an HOA? For someone who says he cares for our community, he sure isn't working for the members who live here.
I hardly think saying 'sue me' when asked about the 2nd key is appropriate or mature. Sadly, we have a confused child, in a man's body, who can not conduct himself to the standards that one expects from an HOA President.
Wednesday, August 5, 2009
HOA meeting August 4, 2009
An HOA meeting was posted by Linda Perry for Tuesday night at 7:00. The last meeting was held in 2008 and she thought it was time to get together as a community and see what the members had to say; something our current board frowns upon. Signs were posted in several locations around the community so our members would know of this meeting, but JJ Carpenter took it upon himself to remove those signs. His excuse was 'they were on county property and the attorney told me I can remove them'. Now, I have a hard time believing the attorney would tell him to remove the signs, but to further prove how he lied, he also said the association attorney called our attorney who is assisting us with the recall. Well, he never did, but JJ Capenter thought it would sound intimidating enough to throw it out there.
So, here we are at the meeting and things were going pretty good until one old man started yelling and pointing fingers how Linda Perry is a troublemaker because of the newsletters that are sent out each month. Actually, there are facts in the newsletters and those facts can be confirmed. That is something that was stressed in the newsletters. Reference is made to fl ss 720 when info is given with a direct link to the chapter being discussed.
I must say, we apparently hit a chord with one lady member when she made reference to 'why aren't you sharing this with JJ'. Well, I tried to explain to her that we have. All he had to do was read the newsletter, which I'm sure he as been doing. JJ made a comment about reading my blog and even my blog gives information that is referenced to ss 720. So, according to JJ, he wants me to send him my copies of state documents so he could give them to the attorney for review. Is he serious? The attorney should know of the state documents and though JJ kept saying I won't 'share' my info with him, well, once again he was caught in a lie. Just reading my blog should have given him the heads up, not to mention those emails I sent him making reference to 720. When I explained to him about going online and doing a search, his excuse was 'I work and I have my ministry'. Ok, so then why are you on the board if you can not make the commitment? He commented how this was a volunteer position. So does that mean you don't need to make a commitment? For someone who doesn't have time to know what he is doing, he sure has time to ride around and take down signs like a child being mean..just because.
The association attorney is Paul DeHart. It just amazes me how an association attorney who should be representing the majority is representing 5 board members. Once again, that only brings question as to why.
So, here we are at the meeting and things were going pretty good until one old man started yelling and pointing fingers how Linda Perry is a troublemaker because of the newsletters that are sent out each month. Actually, there are facts in the newsletters and those facts can be confirmed. That is something that was stressed in the newsletters. Reference is made to fl ss 720 when info is given with a direct link to the chapter being discussed.
I must say, we apparently hit a chord with one lady member when she made reference to 'why aren't you sharing this with JJ'. Well, I tried to explain to her that we have. All he had to do was read the newsletter, which I'm sure he as been doing. JJ made a comment about reading my blog and even my blog gives information that is referenced to ss 720. So, according to JJ, he wants me to send him my copies of state documents so he could give them to the attorney for review. Is he serious? The attorney should know of the state documents and though JJ kept saying I won't 'share' my info with him, well, once again he was caught in a lie. Just reading my blog should have given him the heads up, not to mention those emails I sent him making reference to 720. When I explained to him about going online and doing a search, his excuse was 'I work and I have my ministry'. Ok, so then why are you on the board if you can not make the commitment? He commented how this was a volunteer position. So does that mean you don't need to make a commitment? For someone who doesn't have time to know what he is doing, he sure has time to ride around and take down signs like a child being mean..just because.
The association attorney is Paul DeHart. It just amazes me how an association attorney who should be representing the majority is representing 5 board members. Once again, that only brings question as to why.
Thursday, July 30, 2009
Sneaky Board at it again
It's a given what lying cheats and sneaky people can get away with. Broadmoor Board has once again used their unscrupulous ways to disregard state statutes and gets away with it. Let's call Mark Taliento the ring leader of the low life group. He gets his attorney friend to play games and at the same time bill the very people who are trying to get this board recalled. Yeah, says a lot for this attorney. As soon as I get his name, trust me, I will post it. Also a letter to the bar association may be in order. Problem is, not too many people want to look deep at what is going on. Honestly, you don't have to look deep, just under the surface because these low life attorneys just cover themselves enough to pass for human being.
I will be adding to this post as soon as I have time to get more involved with the nonsense that has been going on these last few days.
I will be adding to this post as soon as I have time to get more involved with the nonsense that has been going on these last few days.
Friday, June 12, 2009
Showcase sold a home....
However, it's not clear if the owners who lived in the house just bought a new home for their lot or Mark Taliento is renting the lot with a new purchased home on it. You see, we are NOT a mobile home park, yet our board is trying to make us one by constantly disregarding the original Broadmoor documents. When Avatar started developing this community, he would lease to purchase the land when an interested party wanted to move here but could only afford the new home. Once the lease was paid, it was stipulated by Avatar that the property must become 'real' property. Sounds to me like Avatar wanted to make sure this was not to become some trailer park community, but one where both the house and land were owned by the same person. According to County regulations, you can have within a community, two different owners. But, since our documents state otherwise by Avatar, that would supersede that of the county in this situation. Our idiot board members don't see it that way. Is it any wonder why we question what they are doing especially in light of the fact that Mark got himself on the board to take care of his personal needs. Until the board and Mark can prove they are not contradicting the documents, what else can we believe but that they are taking care of their personal business.
Monday, June 1, 2009
It's been too quiet.....
I wonder what our unofficial board members are up to now. I say unofficial because the voting last January was a joke. Judy White, with Leland Management, sat at the sign-in table like the queen of nothing, telling some people they could not vote. One elderly member was told she couldn't vote because her dues were late. Judy, as stupid as she is, was working off of a sheet that she printed and was not updated. This member tried to explain that her dues are current, but Judy would not hear of it. I had copied state statute 720.305 3) If the governing documents so provide, an association may suspend the voting rights of a member for the nonpayment of regular annual assessments that are delinquent in excess of 90 days. and showed this to Judy. She refused to acknowledge state statute and assuming for a moment this member was late, she was not past 90 days late. The board gave Judy the authority to hire an off duty deputy to 'control' any outbursts during the election. She looked even more like an idiot telling the deputy to remove me from the community club house. I don't think so and the deputy knew he couldn't. The only way he would have been able to do anything would be if I bitch slapped that poor excuse of a community manager. I was angry, but not crazy. So besides not allowing homeowners in good standing to vote, she allowed Mark Taliento to vote 101 votes for each of those candidates he wanted on the board. Or as they are more commonly known "the Mark Taliento Puppets". Judy's excuse is that she is only doing what the board wants. Well, if we are paying some ridiculous amount of money she should know state statute 720.
Several years back, transition was made from the developer, Avatar Properties, to Poinciana Village Nine Association, Inc. With that in mind, you will understand why Mark Taliento is not privilege to vote 101 votes to control our association. He is a dealer, seller, builder, salesman or whatever he wants to call himself, but he is NOT THE DEVELOPER, AVATAR. By Judy allowing him to vote all those votes, he is now in control. (in another post, I'll tell you why this is important to him)
Please read state statute 720.307 as copied/pasted from FLSENATE.org
Transition of association control in a community.--With respect to homeowners' associations:
(1) Members other than the developer are entitled to elect at least a majority of the members of the board of directors of the homeowners' association when the earlier of the following events occurs:
(a) Three months after 90 percent of the parcels in all phases of the community that will ultimately be operated by the homeowners' association have been conveyed to members; or
(b) Such other percentage of the parcels has been conveyed to members, or such other date or event has occurred, as is set forth in the governing documents in order to comply with the requirements of any governmentally chartered entity with regard to the mortgage financing of parcels.
For purposes of this section, the term "members other than the developer" shall not include builders, contractors, or others who purchase a parcel for the purpose of constructing improvements thereon for resale.
Several years back, transition was made from the developer, Avatar Properties, to Poinciana Village Nine Association, Inc. With that in mind, you will understand why Mark Taliento is not privilege to vote 101 votes to control our association. He is a dealer, seller, builder, salesman or whatever he wants to call himself, but he is NOT THE DEVELOPER, AVATAR. By Judy allowing him to vote all those votes, he is now in control. (in another post, I'll tell you why this is important to him)
Please read state statute 720.307 as copied/pasted from FLSENATE.org
Transition of association control in a community.--With respect to homeowners' associations:
(1) Members other than the developer are entitled to elect at least a majority of the members of the board of directors of the homeowners' association when the earlier of the following events occurs:
(a) Three months after 90 percent of the parcels in all phases of the community that will ultimately be operated by the homeowners' association have been conveyed to members; or
(b) Such other percentage of the parcels has been conveyed to members, or such other date or event has occurred, as is set forth in the governing documents in order to comply with the requirements of any governmentally chartered entity with regard to the mortgage financing of parcels.
For purposes of this section, the term "members other than the developer" shall not include builders, contractors, or others who purchase a parcel for the purpose of constructing improvements thereon for resale.
Yep, that last paragraph says it all.
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